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mr_tone
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 9:36 pm    Post subject: photoshop question Reply with quote

i dont know wether this is in the right section (sorry)

basically im thininkg about editing a photogragh (not taken yet) with some old pit winding gear that has been graffiti'd, i want the picture in black and white with just the graffiti in colour.

im a complete and utter novice at photoshop so could someone just explain how to use layers properly? and also how to select something (graffiti) to move to another layer? (if thats how you do it)

thanks you so much

Tony
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tony, easiest I find is this.

Duplicate layer
Channel Mixer, monochrome, adjust to fit.
Select eraser (making sure that black/white are fore/background colours I believe.
Erase the bits to remain in colour.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tony, if you want a basic walk through on layers I can do one, when you say a complete and utter novice, you mean that literally?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mr_tone wrote:
i want the picture in black and white with just the graffiti in colour.

Here is a decent tutorial.

http://www.adidap.com/2007/02/04/photoshop-tutorial-a-drop-of-color/

I'm sure Keith can do much better  Very Happy  but this might be worth a try. One important step, which they gloss over, is #6:

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6. Now select the Brush tool, and choose Black as a foreground color. The brush size will depend greatly on the area you are about to paint, but make sure to set the hardness to 100%. Paint carefully on the layer mask in black all the areas you want to reveal.


There are other ways to do this, and other tutorials out there. If this tutorial or Keith's help isn't the right help, do a google search on photoshop and selective color.

mr_tone wrote:
im a complete and utter novice at photoshop so could someone just explain how to use layers properly?

Once you learn about and feel comfortable with layers, they will be your best friend. Think of a layer cake, one layer on top of another. Photoshop layers are similar, allowing you stack images, or copies of images on top of each other. You can put anything in a layer - images, shapes, text, gradients, masks. But that's just the beginning. Layers can do adjustments, add or remove colour and can be a way to make non-destructive changes to your image, which you can alter at any time. You can show and hide layers, so different effects can show when you want them to.

Here's a tutorial that is the best I could find as an introduction: http://www.dvd-replica.com/photoshop/102.1.php
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 12:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great stuff John, really useful links. As John said, "Once you learn about and feel comfortable with layers, they will be your best friend. "

It'd be good to have a thread dedicated to layers, so if anything isn't clear, or you want to know anything ask and we can build a resource on the site to refer people to in future.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow thanks for reply guys, yes i am as i say a complete novice, ive tried using layers in the past but i just end up with errors (cant remember what they were) and trying to lassoo something to move it was a disaster haha

ill have a look at that guide now and all this help is much appreciated cheers guys
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



done it!!!!

thanks everyone!!!
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Amazing!  Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mr_tone wrote:
done it!!!!

thanks everyone!!!

That didn't take you long! Nicely done.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

quick learner
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have used photoshop before but only to do the basic affects to pictures, as far as anything even slightly complicated i failed miserably haha,

how did everyone else learn how to use photoshop? because i would love to know how to use it properly
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I learnt to use Paint Shop Pro the hard way (self taught) over many years, before layers were invented, and with each upgrade slowly expanded my knowledge which stood me in very good stead for the basics in Photoshop when I eventually got my grubby hands on it. Starting out when I did, an intuitive approach was ok, but that is no longer the case, the programs are too vast, too complex and the possibilities limitless.

Once I got Photoshop it was down to following step by step tutorials either written or, these days, video. I buy Digital Photo every month, which includes a tutorial DVD with each issue, and other magazines if they grab my interest. Everything I knew from PSP only tickled the underbelly of Photoshop and, in terms of what PS is capable of, I still know virtually nothing apart from what I would call, bread and butter techniques.

One of the advantages of having learnt by the seat of the pants method, is knowing that there is more than one way to skin a cat,  some of my more long winded and arduous routes to achieve an end have been blessedly refined by later learning and improved packages. But I still play, endlessly, and for me that is crucial. Once I have been taught and used a technique/tool/process I will play with it.

One of the things I keep meaning to get back to and relearn is displacement maps, I picked up a great video tutorial a year or so ago and played with them a bit making rude birthday cards for family and friends, but I have since forgotten pretty much all of it.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

have to admit - self taught - and comments much as above



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