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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:36 pm    Post subject: Noise Reply with quote

Took this yesterday at Ladybower.

Lighting was not great so upped to Iso 400. Seems to be a lot of noise - and seems to be same level as when I had the D70.

Looks like Noise Ninja here I come
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no photo  Confused
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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no photo  Confused


OOPS!!! That what comes from being rushed, had to go out in a hurry


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

difficult to see at that size - any chance of a section of it at 100%??

could just be haze
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Love that reflection! Can you go back there for a closer shot? Looks a great location.  Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeh, looks ok to me at that size.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 7:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hil26 wrote:
derek wrote:
Love that reflection! Can you go back there for a closer shot? Looks a great location.  Very Happy


Location is lovely, but getting there at the right time for calm conditions is "hit and miss" for me, as I am either going past too early, or coming back too late - one of these days though ....... Would love to be there on a calm bright morning

Getting closer would mean putting longer lens on, which I did not have with me.

JON - it was hazy, which could be seen on the hills beyond


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

according to the info on flickr you shot at -4/3 ev - i know compensation isn't always reliably reported so could you confirm if or not you had any compensation dialled in?

i ask because if you have purposely under-exposed, then brightened the pic up in pp, this will increase noise dramatically.

you've shot f/20 again - i really can't emphasise enough about not shooting any narrower than f/16 - you'll not get any better dof due to diffraction Smile

i only ever go above f/11 if i purposely need a longer shutter time (i still don't have any nd filters) and you've obviously not needed that this time if you've been @ iso400
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jonH wrote:
according to the info on flickr you shot at -4/3 ev - i know compensation isn't always reliably reported so could you confirm if or not you had any compensation dialled in?

i ask because if you have purposely under-exposed, then brightened the pic up in pp, this will increase noise dramatically.

you've shot f/20 again - i really can't emphasise enough about not shooting any narrower than f/16 - you'll not get any better dof due to diffraction Smile

i only ever go above f/11 if i purposely need a longer shutter time (i still don't have any nd filters) and you've obviously not needed that this time if you've been @ iso400


Jon

exposure comp diallled in to reduce the blown sky - and foreground brightened - think you have hit the nail on the head
Thanks for reminding me about dof, cannot think why I went to f20 on this one, have to admit that I was a little short of time and "rushing".

Many thanks
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dave, do you use nd grads? Far safer than underexposure as Jon says.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Dave, do you use nd grads? Far safer than underexposure as Jon says.


Have got one, but guess what, this particular day - not in the bag -

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AEB can still be used - don't have to produce an HDR image from the results - layer blending is always an option
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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AEB can still be used - don't have to produce an HDR image from the results - layer blending is always an option


Jon - believe it or not, layer blending is what I ended up doing on the Glyderau images, but using smart objects in CS3 - no need for two seperate exposures on the day.

And......what an idiot I am, fo I forgot about it, as I did a liitle tutorial on here
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http://mikesphotography.myfreeforum.org/about1743.html
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol oops Smile



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